Dec 16 2008, 7:00 PM
AdminErik: Alright everyone. I just mailed off my 4-figure COBRA payment. I’m ready for some chat therapy.
AdminErik: Alright everyone. I just mailed off my 4-figure COBRA payment. I’m ready for some chat therapy.
Dec 16 2008, 7:01 PM
lisa (guest): greetings!
lisa (guest): greetings!
Dec 16 2008, 7:01 PM
AdminErik: Also, this is going to be the last chat of the year. I’m going to be traveling and making merry and basically trying to forget 2008 ever happened.
AdminErik: Also, this is going to be the last chat of the year. I’m going to be traveling and making merry and basically trying to forget 2008 ever happened.
Dec 16 2008, 7:01 PM
Fouhy (guest): Whats up with you freelance gig? Still going?
Fouhy (guest): Whats up with you freelance gig? Still going?
Dec 16 2008, 7:02 PM
lisa (guest): I’m doing a project for a client in Hong Kong. Can’t find a thing in the entire US.
lisa (guest): I’m doing a project for a client in Hong Kong. Can’t find a thing in the entire US.
Dec 16 2008, 7:03 PM
Fouhy (guest): No, and things seem to be going dead quiet with the holidays
Fouhy (guest): No, and things seem to be going dead quiet with the holidays
Dec 16 2008, 7:03 PM
AdminErik: Sounds like Lisa’s on to something…when all else fails, look overseas.
AdminErik: Sounds like Lisa’s on to something…when all else fails, look overseas.
Dec 16 2008, 7:03 PM
lisa (guest): Any thoughts on whether Jan. will be looking up? I’m getting a whole lot of “maybes”
lisa (guest): Any thoughts on whether Jan. will be looking up? I’m getting a whole lot of “maybes”
Dec 16 2008, 7:04 PM
DMac: Got a freelance naming project. Nothing glamorous. Bread and butter never tasted so good.
DMac: Got a freelance naming project. Nothing glamorous. Bread and butter never tasted so good.
Dec 16 2008, 7:04 PM
AdminErik: I feel optimistic that with the new year, new budgets, and a new administration will come a little bit of new hiring.
AdminErik: I feel optimistic that with the new year, new budgets, and a new administration will come a little bit of new hiring.
Dec 16 2008, 7:05 PM
AdminErik: But good isn’t just advertising good. It’s networking good. Self promoting good. Blogging good. And most of all, personality good.
AdminErik: But good isn’t just advertising good. It’s networking good. Self promoting good. Blogging good. And most of all, personality good.
Dec 16 2008, 7:06 PM
lisa (guest): True! but the problem is, in a down economy it’s hard to feel as if you’re “good”.
lisa (guest): True! but the problem is, in a down economy it’s hard to feel as if you’re “good”.
Dec 16 2008, 7:07 PM
AdminErik: Honestly, it was precisely because of that that I started PFTA. I didn’t want to feel defined by unemployment.
AdminErik: Honestly, it was precisely because of that that I started PFTA. I didn’t want to feel defined by unemployment.
Dec 16 2008, 7:08 PM
AdminErik: I know I can’t offer anyone jobs. But I can offer them a sense of community. And that’s important, IMO.
AdminErik: I know I can’t offer anyone jobs. But I can offer them a sense of community. And that’s important, IMO.
Dec 16 2008, 7:08 PM
DMac: Create reachable goals. Attain them. Make more. And yes, I love those Survivorman-like tv shows. I think they translate well to the unemployment world
DMac: Create reachable goals. Attain them. Make more. And yes, I love those Survivorman-like tv shows. I think they translate well to the unemployment world
Dec 16 2008, 7:09 PM
AdminErik: I think a lot of people feel like they can’t contribute because they’re working full time. Not true.
AdminErik: I think a lot of people feel like they can’t contribute because they’re working full time. Not true.
Dec 16 2008, 7:11 PM
lisa (guest): Haven’t heard, what’s the scoop?
lisa (guest): Haven’t heard, what’s the scoop?
Dec 16 2008, 7:11 PM
AdminErik: I will say this for my exit experience at Arnold. They told me on a Wednesday, and gave me until Friday to clean out my stuff at my own pace.
AdminErik: I will say this for my exit experience at Arnold. They told me on a Wednesday, and gave me until Friday to clean out my stuff at my own pace.
Dec 16 2008, 7:12 PM
AdminErik: I took my computer home, copied all my important files to an external drive, and returned it on Friday.
AdminErik: I took my computer home, copied all my important files to an external drive, and returned it on Friday.
Dec 16 2008, 7:12 PM
DMac: Have friends there who got whacked. Some that didn’t. Talking with some of them, it sounded as if everyone was in the gallows.
DMac: Have friends there who got whacked. Some that didn’t. Talking with some of them, it sounded as if everyone was in the gallows.
Dec 16 2008, 7:14 PM
AdminErik: http://www.mediabistro.com/agencyspy/campbell_ewald/how_not_to_manage_layoffs_103402.asp
AdminErik: http://www.mediabistro.com/agencyspy/campbell_ewald/how_not_to_manage_layoffs_103402.asp
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Dec 16 2008, 7:14 PM
Gio (guest): So I think I am about to be laid off too (I got the hint big and loud) and am dreading it cause it took me 6 mths to get this gig. Err. Erik – thanks for letting us vent.
Gio (guest): So I think I am about to be laid off too (I got the hint big and loud) and am dreading it cause it took me 6 mths to get this gig. Err. Erik – thanks for letting us vent.
Dec 16 2008, 7:15 PM
AdminErik: Gio, be as general or as specific as you’d like…where are you? City? Agency (if you feel at liberty)?
AdminErik: Gio, be as general or as specific as you’d like…where are you? City? Agency (if you feel at liberty)?
Dec 16 2008, 7:17 PM
Fouhy (guest): when you look for work overseas, how important is it to speak the language of the country?
Fouhy (guest): when you look for work overseas, how important is it to speak the language of the country?
Dec 16 2008, 7:17 PM
lisa (guest): What I’m finding is that actually they want English speaking people.
lisa (guest): What I’m finding is that actually they want English speaking people.
Dec 16 2008, 7:18 PM
AdminErik: I don’t have specific experience in that, but from what I’ve heard it’s not relly that important.
AdminErik: I don’t have specific experience in that, but from what I’ve heard it’s not relly that important.
Dec 16 2008, 7:18 PM
DMac: Lisa, how’d yo come about the gig? Did you have a connection a the agency?
DMac: Lisa, how’d yo come about the gig? Did you have a connection a the agency?
Dec 16 2008, 7:19 PM
AdminErik: I was told that it’s hard for non-english speaking agencies to market to english speaking ones. So they generally are on the lookout for talented americans.
AdminErik: I was told that it’s hard for non-english speaking agencies to market to english speaking ones. So they generally are on the lookout for talented americans.
Dec 16 2008, 7:19 PM
lisa (guest): I’m working directly with the client. It’s a chain of shoe stores. A former client of mine in the US introduced us.
lisa (guest): I’m working directly with the client. It’s a chain of shoe stores. A former client of mine in the US introduced us.
Dec 16 2008, 7:19 PM
Gio (guest): Beantown but until it’s true gonna hold off for now. But there may be an ACD/Designer job here in Jan. Anyone interested? Small promotional company.
Gio (guest): Beantown but until it’s true gonna hold off for now. But there may be an ACD/Designer job here in Jan. Anyone interested? Small promotional company.
Dec 16 2008, 7:20 PM
AdminErik: Gio…you can email me offline with the deets and I’ll post it on PFTA if you’d like.
AdminErik: Gio…you can email me offline with the deets and I’ll post it on PFTA if you’d like.
Dec 16 2008, 7:20 PM
DMac: Gotcha. Have some friends freelancing abroad. Makes me think I should get in touch with them.
DMac: Gotcha. Have some friends freelancing abroad. Makes me think I should get in touch with them.
Dec 16 2008, 7:21 PM
lisa (guest): My strategy is to get in touch with *everybody*
lisa (guest): My strategy is to get in touch with *everybody*
Dec 16 2008, 7:22 PM
Fouhy (guest): Dubai seems like a fantasy land
Fouhy (guest): Dubai seems like a fantasy land
Dec 16 2008, 7:22 PM
lisa (guest): I agree.
lisa (guest): I agree.
Dec 16 2008, 7:22 PM
whaddup (guest): adminerik hi.
whaddup (guest): adminerik hi.
Dec 16 2008, 7:22 PM
AdminErik: Here’s my take on 2009: I think niche/specialty shops are going to be primed for huge growth. (Assuming, of course, that their niche isn’t automotive, financial, or real estate.)
AdminErik: Here’s my take on 2009: I think niche/specialty shops are going to be primed for huge growth. (Assuming, of course, that their niche isn’t automotive, financial, or real estate.)
Dec 16 2008, 7:23 PM
Anonymous (guest): hello
Anonymous (guest): hello
Dec 16 2008, 7:23 PM
whaddup (guest): AdminErik
whaddup (guest): AdminErik
Dec 16 2008, 7:24 PM
whaddup (guest): i think your work is incredible
whaddup (guest): i think your work is incredible
Dec 16 2008, 7:24 PM
whaddup (guest): i work at an agency in Cambridge
whaddup (guest): i work at an agency in Cambridge
Dec 16 2008, 7:24 PM
whaddup (guest): and we are really looking for a good writer
whaddup (guest): and we are really looking for a good writer
Dec 16 2008, 7:25 PM
lisa (guest): Part of me wants to just open a 30 person agency with all the people who are out there unemployed.
lisa (guest): Part of me wants to just open a 30 person agency with all the people who are out there unemployed.
Dec 16 2008, 7:25 PM
DMac: I think that’s been on a lot of people’s minds, Lisa. It certainly crossed mine.
DMac: I think that’s been on a lot of people’s minds, Lisa. It certainly crossed mine.
Dec 16 2008, 7:25 PM
AdminErik: I’ll bet there are 30 client-side people who would like to open up their own business, too.
AdminErik: I’ll bet there are 30 client-side people who would like to open up their own business, too.
Dec 16 2008, 7:26 PM
lisa (guest): I was thinking you could just get a group of cool people together. Build a website that just had links to everyone’s work. No overhead.
lisa (guest): I was thinking you could just get a group of cool people together. Build a website that just had links to everyone’s work. No overhead.
Dec 16 2008, 7:26 PM
AdminErik: If we could pair unemployed clients with unemployed agency people, and find someone to finance the whole operation, it could be a pretty sweet venture.
AdminErik: If we could pair unemployed clients with unemployed agency people, and find someone to finance the whole operation, it could be a pretty sweet venture.
Dec 16 2008, 7:26 PM
Anonymous (guest): adminerik are you the one running this blog?
Anonymous (guest): adminerik are you the one running this blog?
Dec 16 2008, 7:27 PM
Anonymous (guest): thanks for doing this, it has helped to hear from other people.
Anonymous (guest): thanks for doing this, it has helped to hear from other people.
Dec 16 2008, 7:27 PM
Anonymous (guest): are you still freelancing
Anonymous (guest): are you still freelancing
Dec 16 2008, 7:27 PM
Anonymous (guest): congrats
Anonymous (guest): congrats
Dec 16 2008, 7:28 PM
Anonymous (guest): any advice how to get in there and land one
Anonymous (guest): any advice how to get in there and land one
Dec 16 2008, 7:28 PM
Anonymous (guest): nyc
Anonymous (guest): nyc
Dec 16 2008, 7:30 PM
Anonymous (guest): Ad
Anonymous (guest): Ad
Dec 16 2008, 7:30 PM
Anonymous (guest): it’s been rough
Anonymous (guest): it’s been rough
Dec 16 2008, 7:31 PM
AdminErik: I wish there was a magic bullet. But the best thing you can do is be as creative as you can in your search. Blog. Network. Go to every function you can. And always, always, be working on your book. Especially from the interactive side…it’s officially a mandate to get work now.
AdminErik: I wish there was a magic bullet. But the best thing you can do is be as creative as you can in your search. Blog. Network. Go to every function you can. And always, always, be working on your book. Especially from the interactive side…it’s officially a mandate to get work now.
Dec 16 2008, 7:31 PM
lisa (guest): How are your web/interactive skills? that seems to be where the AD jobs are.
lisa (guest): How are your web/interactive skills? that seems to be where the AD jobs are.
Dec 16 2008, 7:32 PM
Anonymous (guest): Yea I have some interactive work in my portfolio
Anonymous (guest): Yea I have some interactive work in my portfolio
Dec 16 2008, 7:33 PM
Anonymous (guest): Has anyone heard of a city that is best to get ad jobs
Anonymous (guest): Has anyone heard of a city that is best to get ad jobs
Dec 16 2008, 7:33 PM
Anonymous (guest): or isn’t hurting as much
Anonymous (guest): or isn’t hurting as much
Dec 16 2008, 7:33 PM
lisa (guest): I haven’t heard too much bad news from California.
lisa (guest): I haven’t heard too much bad news from California.
Dec 16 2008, 7:33 PM
Anonymous (guest): i just came from sf
Anonymous (guest): i just came from sf
Dec 16 2008, 7:34 PM
lisa (guest): was it bad there?
lisa (guest): was it bad there?
Dec 16 2008, 7:34 PM
Anonymous (guest): it’s rough out there too but I hear they just opened RGA there and hired a bunch of people
Anonymous (guest): it’s rough out there too but I hear they just opened RGA there and hired a bunch of people
Dec 16 2008, 7:34 PM
AdminErik: I will say this…I would strongly advise for everyone to get outside of their comfort zones when it comes to job searching. There are so many unknown agencies out there who are pining for the kind of talent that is on the streets these days.
AdminErik: I will say this…I would strongly advise for everyone to get outside of their comfort zones when it comes to job searching. There are so many unknown agencies out there who are pining for the kind of talent that is on the streets these days.
Dec 16 2008, 7:34 PM
Anonymous (guest): of course when I just left
Anonymous (guest): of course when I just left
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
Anonymous (guest): what do you mean by make yourself know to them?
Anonymous (guest): what do you mean by make yourself know to them?
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
lisa (guest): I agree. That’s why I was asking about the interactive. I will take projects for very little pay if they help me get more experience.
lisa (guest): I agree. That’s why I was asking about the interactive. I will take projects for very little pay if they help me get more experience.
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
lisa (guest): Contact whoever you can at places
lisa (guest): Contact whoever you can at places
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
Anonymous (guest): oh I have, I’m sure they are getting bombarded
Anonymous (guest): oh I have, I’m sure they are getting bombarded
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
lisa (guest): Go to social networking sites — like this — and meet people
lisa (guest): Go to social networking sites — like this — and meet people
Dec 16 2008, 7:35 PM
AdminErik: http://test.agencycompile.com/Default.aspx
AdminErik: http://test.agencycompile.com/Default.aspx
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Dec 16 2008, 7:36 PM
lisa (guest): doesn’t matter
lisa (guest): doesn’t matter
Dec 16 2008, 7:36 PM
DMac: Email what I call mid-majors. Send them your site. I recently emailed agencies around the country wit my new site.
DMac: Email what I call mid-majors. Send them your site. I recently emailed agencies around the country wit my new site.
Dec 16 2008, 7:36 PM
Anonymous (guest): definitely
Anonymous (guest): definitely
Dec 16 2008, 7:36 PM
lisa (guest): It’s so easy to just send a link of your work these days.
lisa (guest): It’s so easy to just send a link of your work these days.
Dec 16 2008, 7:37 PM
AdminErik: and don’t be embarrassed about who you talk to or where you get leads.
AdminErik: and don’t be embarrassed about who you talk to or where you get leads.
Dec 16 2008, 7:37 PM
Anonymous (guest): it’s just the waiting that is awful
Anonymous (guest): it’s just the waiting that is awful
Dec 16 2008, 7:37 PM
AdminErik: a friend of mine hooked me up with someone they met once who owned a small shop out in newburyport.
AdminErik: a friend of mine hooked me up with someone they met once who owned a small shop out in newburyport.
Dec 16 2008, 7:38 PM
Anonymous (guest): oh wow
Anonymous (guest): oh wow
Dec 16 2008, 7:38 PM
DMac: the waiting is awful, yes. But if you’re working on more and more leads, the waiting, i find, doesn’t seem as bad.
DMac: the waiting is awful, yes. But if you’re working on more and more leads, the waiting, i find, doesn’t seem as bad.
Dec 16 2008, 7:38 PM
AdminErik: i wasn’t familiar with him or his shop. but that’s what i’m talking about when i say “make yourself known.”
AdminErik: i wasn’t familiar with him or his shop. but that’s what i’m talking about when i say “make yourself known.”
Dec 16 2008, 7:38 PM
AdminErik: it’s all about spreading your seed as far and as plentiful as possible.
AdminErik: it’s all about spreading your seed as far and as plentiful as possible.
Dec 16 2008, 7:39 PM
dmc (guest): Does anyone use LinkedIn as a resource?
dmc (guest): Does anyone use LinkedIn as a resource?
Dec 16 2008, 7:39 PM
lisa (guest): I use LinkedIn a lot. And Facebook.
lisa (guest): I use LinkedIn a lot. And Facebook.
Dec 16 2008, 7:39 PM
Anonymous (guest): yea when I google someone it usually takes me to linkedin
Anonymous (guest): yea when I google someone it usually takes me to linkedin
Dec 16 2008, 7:40 PM
Anonymous (guest): the only thing is you can’t access their email unless you pay, but you can usually figure it out
Anonymous (guest): the only thing is you can’t access their email unless you pay, but you can usually figure it out
Dec 16 2008, 7:40 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I use LinkedIn as a resource occasionally. I think that people are more likely to respond via LinkedIn and FB than regular emial
SallyHogshead (guest): I use LinkedIn as a resource occasionally. I think that people are more likely to respond via LinkedIn and FB than regular emial
Dec 16 2008, 7:42 PM
AdminErik: I agree. Somehow, that middle-man brings with it some networking savvy. It’s almost as if FB or LinkedIn are mutual friends making an introduction.
AdminErik: I agree. Somehow, that middle-man brings with it some networking savvy. It’s almost as if FB or LinkedIn are mutual friends making an introduction.
Dec 16 2008, 7:42 PM
lisa (guest): I’ve also been trying to use my spare time to help other people out. Connect people with others where I think the fit would be good.
lisa (guest): I’ve also been trying to use my spare time to help other people out. Connect people with others where I think the fit would be good.
Dec 16 2008, 7:42 PM
lisa (guest): good karma if nothing else.
lisa (guest): good karma if nothing else.
Dec 16 2008, 7:42 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Lisa that is so great. It’s a karmic world
SallyHogshead (guest): Lisa that is so great. It’s a karmic world
Dec 16 2008, 7:42 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): jinx
SallyHogshead (guest): jinx
Dec 16 2008, 7:43 PM
Anonymous (guest): has anyone used creative circle?
Anonymous (guest): has anyone used creative circle?
Dec 16 2008, 7:43 PM
lisa (guest): no, what is it?
lisa (guest): no, what is it?
Dec 16 2008, 7:43 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I’m looking at it now: http://www.creativecircle.com
SallyHogshead (guest): I’m looking at it now: http://www.creativecircle.com
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Dec 16 2008, 7:43 PM
AdminErik: I haven’t, personally. But depending on the kind of work you’re after, it can be a good resource.
AdminErik: I haven’t, personally. But depending on the kind of work you’re after, it can be a good resource.
Dec 16 2008, 7:44 PM
dmc (guest): Is that where you got your current fl project?
dmc (guest): Is that where you got your current fl project?
Dec 16 2008, 7:44 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Do any of you spend time on TwitteR?
SallyHogshead (guest): Do any of you spend time on TwitteR?
Dec 16 2008, 7:44 PM
Gio (guest): Hi there – had to step away for a few so missed answer to my question. Sorry. I also know we use TCG (the Creative Group) for freelance.
Gio (guest): Hi there – had to step away for a few so missed answer to my question. Sorry. I also know we use TCG (the Creative Group) for freelance.
Dec 16 2008, 7:44 PM
Anonymous (guest): Yea they send out emails almost every day which I apply to but never hear back. I wanted to see if anyone has heard back from them.
Anonymous (guest): Yea they send out emails almost every day which I apply to but never hear back. I wanted to see if anyone has heard back from them.
Dec 16 2008, 7:45 PM
AdminErik: I haven’t embraced Twitter yet, Sally. Is there any benefit to that over facebook updates?
AdminErik: I haven’t embraced Twitter yet, Sally. Is there any benefit to that over facebook updates?
Dec 16 2008, 7:45 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): There is something I notice about meeting and being in touch with people via FB and Twitter and the like–
SallyHogshead (guest): There is something I notice about meeting and being in touch with people via FB and Twitter and the like–
Dec 16 2008, 7:46 PM
lisa (guest): I tried Twitter but couldn’t get into the flow of it.
lisa (guest): I tried Twitter but couldn’t get into the flow of it.
Dec 16 2008, 7:46 PM
lisa (guest): But FB changed my life.
lisa (guest): But FB changed my life.
Dec 16 2008, 7:46 PM
dmc (guest): How??
dmc (guest): How??
Dec 16 2008, 7:46 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): you can develop a semi-relationship with them, so they are familiar with your name, and if you comment intelligently on what they’re doing, you can develop a sense of relaitonship
SallyHogshead (guest): you can develop a semi-relationship with them, so they are familiar with your name, and if you comment intelligently on what they’re doing, you can develop a sense of relaitonship
Dec 16 2008, 7:47 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I follow the poeple who are doing things I admire, whether creative directors or authors or bloggers, and then let them know when they say or do something that I find useful
SallyHogshead (guest): I follow the poeple who are doing things I admire, whether creative directors or authors or bloggers, and then let them know when they say or do something that I find useful
Dec 16 2008, 7:47 PM
lisa (guest): Oh, I see. promoting yourself through how you think, in a way.
lisa (guest): Oh, I see. promoting yourself through how you think, in a way.
Dec 16 2008, 7:48 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Well, what I have found is that by reaching out via social networking, over time, you make it MUCH more likely that the person is going to write you back
SallyHogshead (guest): Well, what I have found is that by reaching out via social networking, over time, you make it MUCH more likely that the person is going to write you back
Dec 16 2008, 7:48 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): so if you have a CD you want to work for, find out where he or she is linked on a site, and follow him or her. They may not respond, but they will notice
SallyHogshead (guest): so if you have a CD you want to work for, find out where he or she is linked on a site, and follow him or her. They may not respond, but they will notice
Dec 16 2008, 7:48 PM
lisa (guest): You’re right. Because once people feel like they know you, they are much more likely to trust you
lisa (guest): You’re right. Because once people feel like they know you, they are much more likely to trust you
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): EXACTLY!
SallyHogshead (guest): EXACTLY!
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): so you’re not just one in a million
SallyHogshead (guest): so you’re not just one in a million
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
Anonymous (guest): interesting I’l have to try that
Anonymous (guest): interesting I’l have to try that
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Also I think blogs like this one are brilliant way to stand out and demonstrate how you think
SallyHogshead (guest): Also I think blogs like this one are brilliant way to stand out and demonstrate how you think
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Erik is a genius for doing this, because when someone is considering him for a job, he has a running account of the value he brings to the party
SallyHogshead (guest): Erik is a genius for doing this, because when someone is considering him for a job, he has a running account of the value he brings to the party
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
AdminErik: It’s like a multi-million dollar media buy that costs you nothing but your communication.
AdminErik: It’s like a multi-million dollar media buy that costs you nothing but your communication.
Dec 16 2008, 7:49 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): bingo
SallyHogshead (guest): bingo
Dec 16 2008, 7:50 PM
Fouhy (guest): So do you become part of these peoples networks on the social sites?
Fouhy (guest): So do you become part of these peoples networks on the social sites?
Dec 16 2008, 7:50 PM
Fouhy (guest): Or do you email contact them through the linkedin or facebook mail?
Fouhy (guest): Or do you email contact them through the linkedin or facebook mail?
Dec 16 2008, 7:50 PM
Gio (guest): You should send a link to Adweek – maybe get a little publicity.
Gio (guest): You should send a link to Adweek – maybe get a little publicity.
Dec 16 2008, 7:50 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): We’re all in the same boat, we all lack the resources to do the sort of self-promotion we might like… but we have creativity and we understand marketing… that can be leveraged for a tremendous advantage
SallyHogshead (guest): We’re all in the same boat, we all lack the resources to do the sort of self-promotion we might like… but we have creativity and we understand marketing… that can be leveraged for a tremendous advantage
Dec 16 2008, 7:51 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Gio — yes yes yes agreed
SallyHogshead (guest): Gio — yes yes yes agreed
Dec 16 2008, 7:51 PM
AdminErik: Thank you, Sally. I can honestly say, however, that my motivation for this site has as much (or more) to do with giving people a community as it does self promotion.
AdminErik: Thank you, Sally. I can honestly say, however, that my motivation for this site has as much (or more) to do with giving people a community as it does self promotion.
Dec 16 2008, 7:51 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I know, that shines through
SallyHogshead (guest): I know, that shines through
Dec 16 2008, 7:51 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): But, that is your personal brand!
SallyHogshead (guest): But, that is your personal brand!
Dec 16 2008, 7:51 PM
Gio (guest): Ok so we should send to adweek as a thank you.
Gio (guest): Ok so we should send to adweek as a thank you.
Dec 16 2008, 7:53 PM
dmc (guest): Have you done several of these, Eric?
dmc (guest): Have you done several of these, Eric?
Dec 16 2008, 7:53 PM
Anonymous (guest): I saw that Betsy Y would comment on the blog and thought that was so valuable to get advice from a recruiter’s perspective. Kuddos Erik.
Anonymous (guest): I saw that Betsy Y would comment on the blog and thought that was so valuable to get advice from a recruiter’s perspective. Kuddos Erik.
Dec 16 2008, 7:53 PM
AdminErik: I will not argue its promotional value. But I have turned down advertisers specifically because I don’t want this to become anything but honest and raw.
AdminErik: I will not argue its promotional value. But I have turned down advertisers specifically because I don’t want this to become anything but honest and raw.
Dec 16 2008, 7:54 PM
AdminErik: so far, this is the best one. so, thank you in advance to everyone who is contributing today!
AdminErik: so far, this is the best one. so, thank you in advance to everyone who is contributing today!
Dec 16 2008, 7:54 PM
AnonyMmous (guest): megan
AnonyMmous (guest): megan
Dec 16 2008, 7:54 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I just got back from a conference and I learned a lot of stuff about how to market myself (which is weird since I am in advertising) but the biggest thing I learned is the need to have a VERY clear and unique point of view on a blog or other consistent spot
SallyHogshead (guest): I just got back from a conference and I learned a lot of stuff about how to market myself (which is weird since I am in advertising) but the biggest thing I learned is the need to have a VERY clear and unique point of view on a blog or other consistent spot
Dec 16 2008, 7:54 PM
dmc (guest): Are you getting a different group of people each time?
dmc (guest): Are you getting a different group of people each time?
Dec 16 2008, 7:54 PM
AnonyMmous (guest): oops, that wasn’t supposed to go there, sorry.
AnonyMmous (guest): oops, that wasn’t supposed to go there, sorry.
Dec 16 2008, 7:55 PM
Gio (guest): Erik – will you post this on your blog. I missed a bunch.
Gio (guest): Erik – will you post this on your blog. I missed a bunch.
Dec 16 2008, 7:55 PM
TRad (guest): hello, I just been observing. Erik, this is great!
TRad (guest): hello, I just been observing. Erik, this is great!
Dec 16 2008, 7:55 PM
AdminErik: i think seth godin put it so perfectly when he said to speak to a very specific group of people instead of trying to talk to the masses.
AdminErik: i think seth godin put it so perfectly when he said to speak to a very specific group of people instead of trying to talk to the masses.
Dec 16 2008, 7:56 PM
Gio (guest): The transcript – or am I missing something?
Gio (guest): The transcript – or am I missing something?
Dec 16 2008, 7:57 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Maybe you could do a summary, Erik?
SallyHogshead (guest): Maybe you could do a summary, Erik?
Dec 16 2008, 7:57 PM
TRad (guest): is there a way that the chats are archived?
TRad (guest): is there a way that the chats are archived?
Dec 16 2008, 7:58 PM
AdminErik: The other downside about unemployment is that you are your own IT department.
AdminErik: The other downside about unemployment is that you are your own IT department.
Dec 16 2008, 7:58 PM
Anonymous (guest): haha true
Anonymous (guest): haha true
Dec 16 2008, 7:58 PM
Gio (guest): Another valuable skill
Gio (guest): Another valuable skill
Dec 16 2008, 7:59 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Erik what is the best lesson you have learned PERSONALLY since you’ve been on the adventure known as unemployement?
SallyHogshead (guest): Erik what is the best lesson you have learned PERSONALLY since you’ve been on the adventure known as unemployement?
Dec 16 2008, 7:59 PM
AdminErik: Well, everyone…it’s about that time. I am going to be traveling for the hoidays so we won’t be chatting again until the New Year. 1/6/09 to be exact.
AdminErik: Well, everyone…it’s about that time. I am going to be traveling for the hoidays so we won’t be chatting again until the New Year. 1/6/09 to be exact.
Dec 16 2008, 8:00 PM
Gio (guest): Make sure you remind us on FB again. A few times.
Gio (guest): Make sure you remind us on FB again. A few times.
Dec 16 2008, 8:00 PM
AdminErik: This is no time to contemplate the merits of this or that opportunity.
AdminErik: This is no time to contemplate the merits of this or that opportunity.
Dec 16 2008, 8:01 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): I love that. Such good energy. “Yes” begets more “yes.”
SallyHogshead (guest): I love that. Such good energy. “Yes” begets more “yes.”
Dec 16 2008, 8:01 PM
DMac: good go today erik. have a great holidays everyone! keep your collective chins up!
DMac: good go today erik. have a great holidays everyone! keep your collective chins up!
Dec 16 2008, 8:01 PM
SallyHogshead (guest): Thank you for doing this Erik! You rock!
SallyHogshead (guest): Thank you for doing this Erik! You rock!
Dec 16 2008, 8:01 PM
lisa (guest): Thanks all!!!
lisa (guest): Thanks all!!!
Dec 16 2008, 8:02 PM
Anonymous (guest): Thanks Erik
Anonymous (guest): Thanks Erik
Dec 16 2008, 8:02 PM
dmc (guest): Thank, Erik. Can’t wait to see where this progresses to. Talk with you soon!!
dmc (guest): Thank, Erik. Can’t wait to see where this progresses to. Talk with you soon!!
Dec 18 2008, 3:24 PM
RBofill (guest): its been awhile..Happy be back here, enjoi Holidays everyone!
RBofill (guest): its been awhile..Happy be back here, enjoi Holidays everyone!
Dec 18 2008, 8:29 PM
Ad7am (guest): Erik? Hi. The full chat doesn’t seem to be available here.
Ad7am (guest): Erik? Hi. The full chat doesn’t seem to be available here.
Dec 18 2008, 8:32 PM
Ad7am (guest): Scratch that. Found the Archives tab on the chatroll page.
Ad7am (guest): Scratch that. Found the Archives tab on the chatroll page.
Dec 22 2008, 7:07 PM
thefounder (guest): test
thefounder (guest): test
Dec 22 2008, 7:08 PM
thefounder (guest): hello?