AdminErik: Hey all. Let’s give everyone a couple of minutes to show up.

AdminErik: Alright. It’s a bit past 2:00. Hope everyone’s doing alright, keeping their heads above water, finding work.

ronan_doyle (guest): Cheers! Hello.


toddindependent (guest): Ahoy!


AdminErik: If you can’t see what you’re typing, click on the “PFTA Live Chat: Press Conference” at the top of this post.

ciphun (guest): I’m doing good, this is Andre Sanders btw. Just heard back from my latest interview and it was a no-go, but it still was a very pleasant phone call.


TheCurateur (guest): Hiya!


Kat (guest): Hi


Paul_K (guest): Hi


Eric (guest): Hello


at_kisokiso (guest): howdy all


toddindependent (guest): What will we be “hearing”?


AdminErik: Looks like a lot of people, so I’m going to just launch into the news….and we can do a Q&A as we go.

Ad-Recruiter (guest): Ad-Recruiter (christie) hello Erik


ciphun (guest): is this a modified IRC chat?


AdminErik: First off, it looks like we have a date for the new site launch. Skookum is shooting to have the beta version without the portfolio by July 12th, and then the portfolio section shortly thereafter…roughly about the 20th.

toddindependent (guest): Skookum di grayandpartners.com, thank you


ronan_doyle (guest): If anyone wants to see some awesome Skookum work… check out our new grayandpartners.com


ronan_doyle (guest): Dammit Todd!!


ronan_doyle (guest): Right… Skookum did it for us.


MichaelF (guest): hi gang!


Kat (guest): Erik, what’s the portfolio section?


Karina (guest): Great to see so many people logged on


AdminErik: So, we’re going to be giving agencies a free trial run of the site. They’ll be able to post unlimited jobs for 30 days during the beta period.

Danielle (guest): wow that’s awesome.


Karina (guest): I have spoken to many of the people visiting this site. Great site and sorry that I have not had more leads for people in the past.


Moira (guest): Hi, just launched my new site: moiragillis.com


AdminErik: After much discussion about membership fees for the new service, we decided to go with Shea Tullos’ suggestion of pulling a Radiohead and asking people to pay only what they feel it’s worth.

AgencySpy (guest): Nice!


Karina (guest): nice


Eric (guest): nice


mrszalay (guest): cool


at_kisokiso (guest): sweet


AgencySpy (guest): That’s a theme these days


toddindependent (guest): great


AdminErik: It’s always felt wrong to me to charge people to find a job. This way, it’s up to you whether or not you want to pay anything. And, honestly, no one will be keeping score about who paid and who didn’t. OUr best hope is that any money we do collect will offest the administrative and hosting costs of the site.

Anonymous (guest): good way to latch onto a great idea…


TheCurateur (guest): is that a sustainable model?


Moira (guest): lots of software developers do that, no?


AgencySpy (guest): That’s exactly how Laurel Touby started the Mediabistro jobs board…and here we are 15 years later


AnonyMouse (guest): Moira, your site looks nice.


AdminErik: Sustainable? Nah. But laid off people aren’t the ones I want to sustain us.

TheCurateur (guest): good point


ronan_doyle (guest): Excellent point


Moira (guest): why, thanks! Someone told me the home page looked circus-y. Think so?


ShawnW (guest): you’re doing a great thing Erik. You know, you know.


ronan_doyle (guest): If only there were a way to make the companies that laid people off pay for it… ha


Moira (guest): Yes, Erik, I agree.


AnonyMouse (guest): Circusy? Maybe. But that’s ok.


AdminErik: So, I’m excited about that. 65% of the people said they’d be willing to pay something. Hopefully, they still will.

Eric (guest): moira- what’s your site again?


Anonymous (guest): Congrats Erik


AnonyMouse (guest): As long as it’s clean and commincates clearly. It does.


Moira (guest): Sure, why not? moiragillis.cm


Moira (guest): .com


AgencySpy (guest): Erik you could make package deals with agencies where they pay to post jobs, but as a bonus you let their laid off people post profiles for free


TheCurateur (guest): is there a way to list it as a non-profit so companies could sustain it and get tax deduction?


Kat (guest): Can we focus right now on Erik & his news?


ronan_doyle (guest): Moira, you also worked at ISM? Nice to meet another survivor.


AdamKuhr (guest): So agencies and ads will “sustain” the site — or more pointedly, you?


Moira (guest): yes, of course.


Anonymous (guest): Soda makes me gassy


AdminErik: I’ve considered the non profit route. Lots and lots of regulations going that way.

TheCurateur (guest): yeah, it’s a longer process but does open up the financial side a bit


TheCurateur (guest): just wanted to toss into mix


Anonymous (guest): RT TheCurateur (guest): just wanted to toss into mix


Moira (guest): Is AIGA a non-profit? I wonder if they’d help you out w/the nonprofit stuff.


Anonymous (guest): RT Moira (guest): Is AIGA a non-profit? I wonder if they’d help you out w/the nonprofit stuff.


AdamKuhr (guest): cool


Ad-Recruiter (guest): Erik – a brief overview of what you are trying to do, for those of us new to you?


toddindependent (guest): or the art directors club


AdminErik: Again, no one is in this to make a killing. I just want to be able to keep my house.

jackie (guest): i think its a great idea


ronan_doyle (guest): That’s a good plan. I sold my house!


toddindependent (guest): ok what next


AdminErik: Ad-recruiter….PFTA the blog is going to become PFTA the community…job board, portfolio site, bios, personal pages…

Kat (guest): How will this differ from Creative HotList?


Moira (guest): That ads an air of honesty to the new viewer, too.


Ad-Recruiter (guest): excellent Erik.


TheCurateur (guest): Can I ask if anyone went to ad & music conference in nyc last week and got any leads from it?


AdminErik: A PFTA Facebook fan page is up…just today: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Please-Feed-The-Animals/#/home.php?ref=home

Moira (guest): delightful.


AnonyMouse (guest): I got laid off had to sell my house in a short sale situation.


Kat (guest): Nice.


toddindependent (guest): now we get to see whos behind anonymous


AnonyMouse (guest): I hate losing my job.


AdminErik: It’s kind of a shell right now. But more functionality and design will be added as we go.

Jun 9 2009, 2:13 PM
Kat (guest): (I meant the FB page, not the house sale)
AnonyMouse (guest): 4 Chan is behind anonymous. ![]()


AdminErik: It’s more of a place for everyone involved with PFTA to interact with each other.

Kat (guest): It’s great that you’re building community here.


AdminErik: You guys are the first to know about it, so I hope you all log on and become fans of the FB page.

toddindependent (guest): so both fb and pfta will be transparent?


Moira (guest): sure thing.


Karina (guest): oh great


Anonymous (guest): you will have to put back in the facebook link, it didn’t load anything


jackie (guest): doing it right now!


toddindependent (guest): great


eric (guest): How will peoples’ portfolios be on the site? By AE, AD, CW,..? Or will it just be a job board for shops to post?


ShawnW (guest): fan number 2 Erik


AnonyMouse (guest): I use carbonmade for my copywriting portfolio.


ciphun (guest): I think this is excellent what you are doing, Erik.


AnonyMouse (guest): I, too, think it’s excellent.


toddindependent (guest): portfolios should be like fb photo albums


AgencySpy (guest): Woot! Go EProulx


AnonyMouse (guest): Matt?


Moira (guest): so if I hear of a job, will I be able to post it there or go thru you, Erik?


AdminErik: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=788620628&ref=profile#/friends/?ref=tn
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Karina (guest): i wanted to let people on this site/forum know that Resourceful Recruiting is not going to be doing business any more


Moira (guest): sorry to hear that.


eboy (guest): hobdy’s chatting.


Karina (guest): thank you and sorry i did not have more creative positions


Karina (guest): i covered a wide net of industries


eboy (guest): hello


ronan_doyle (guest): No one blames you for that… there are NO creative positions.


ciphun (guest): the facebook link you’re providing is not leading to your fan page


eboy (guest): not working


Karina (guest): and with the downturn worse at the beginning of the year, it became difficult to sustain


eboy (guest): server capacity too high?


jackie (guest): yup!


at_kisokiso (guest): yeah i got on it


jackie (guest): can see your home office


tyson (guest): I searched “please feed the animals” and found it


Anonymous (guest): nope its not working for me either


Danielle (guest): yes


Karina (guest): so i too am looking for a position


Karina (guest): as everyone else


Danielle (guest): but neither link worked


at_kisokiso (guest): just do a search for “please feed the animals” in the search box


jackie (guest): ok more news!


at_kisokiso (guest): search in facebook


Karina (guest): any connections i make though i will be sure to pass on


toddindependent (guest): im in o the fb


ciphun (guest): this is the link you want: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Please-Feed-The-Animals/103291937952?sid=ae8daf3df657f1323cb45a9a3b3bd427&ref=search
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darrellwhitelaw (guest): hi everyone


Karina (guest): my background is tricky, haha, so i usually show people my resume to give them an idea. Along the HR lines or client relations


AdminErik: You may or may not know that I have a partner now who is helping me with the business of PFTA. His name is Greg Thomas, and he wrote this post for me a while back:

AdminErik: http://www.pleasefeedtheanimals.com/2008/11/26/treat-you-like-a-business-by-greg-thomas/
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Angela (guest): Hi All! I just became a FB fan…glad to see your page.


AdminErik: And this one more recently:
http://www.pleasefeedtheanimals.com/2009/06/04/the-power-to-change-everything-by-greg-thomas/
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Kat (guest): Erik, this is like giving handouts before the end of the talk. ADHD. ha ha


Moira (guest): I’m on it.


Moira (guest): Nice job, Erik.


ronan_doyle (guest): I love Greg’s posts. Great insight. Inspirational. Must have be great to work for him.


tyson (guest): great article


AdminErik: Greg is my old boss at Cleveland agency Brokaw. He’s one of the smartest people I’ve ever met. Having him on board has made my life infinitely easier.

tyson (guest): err blog post


Kat (guest): 20 fans now on FB.


colin (guest): how will this differ from other job, portfolio, forum websites such as coroflot, ihaveanidea, agencyspy…?


MichaelF (guest): hope you keep the brown sign-always loved it


toddindependent (guest): grayandpartners is now a fan of pfta, as well as me


AdminErik: Colin, a lot will be similar. But I think a big differentiator is that we’re all here right now and not at those places. We thrive off each other. It’s going to be a lot more than a job site.

AnonyMouse (guest): I hope I can help people get jobs. I hook up my friends whenever I can.


ciphun (guest): Another question, what can we do to help this site and process?


Moira (guest): You know the more I think of it, I think non-profit would be right for you.


toddindependent (guest): is that a miller high life beer on your desk in the pfta office?


ronan_doyle (guest): Another thing I think will be different, is that this seems more like a community of ad people, where a site like TalentZoo is ad placement people. A lot of their articles are idiotic. Like someone from Iceland writing about South Beach.


toddindependent (guest): cheers my friend


eric (guest): haha nice


AnonyMouse (guest): Even if you run a non-profit, you can still make money and give yourself a salary


Moira (guest): That’s the Erik I remember


ronan_doyle (guest): The Champagne of beers


Moira (guest): Yes?


jackie (guest): lets hear it


Moira (guest): drum roll


megan (guest): and?


MichaelF (guest): such suspense


AdminErik: A major production company will be backing the short film we’re shooting about adfolk who have lost their jobs. They are putting significant resources behind this.

Jun 9 2009, 2:24 PM
Kat (guest): Woah!
MichaelF (guest): awesome


Nik (guest): very cool


Moira (guest): fun!


AnonyMouse (guest): Nice!


jackie (guest): waoh!


eric (guest): nice congrats!


Karina (guest): wow!


megan (guest): that is excellent news!


colin (guest): that sounds great


jackie (guest): do you need any help


Karina (guest): that’s amazing


ronan_doyle (guest): Terrific.


Kat (guest): And the Caribbean?


toddindependent (guest): titles my friend


Karina (guest): congratulations!


Danielle (guest): rad!!


BeccaB (guest): Have you chosen the people to highlight in the film?


Moira (guest): omg, we ALL have interesting layoff stories.


Paul_K (guest): wow, nice!


AnonyMouse (guest): I’ve been laid off three times.


Moira (guest): how about new mom gets laid off?


TheCurateur (guest): Do you need a music sup for the film?


Moira (guest): wink, wink.


at_kisokiso (guest): awesome, congrats!


Kat (guest): How long will the film be? Estimated run time?


Ad-Recruiter (guest): who will the film be marketed to?


jackie (guest): please let us know somehow if you need odds an ends


AnonyMouse (guest): I get laid off more than I get laid.


ronan_doyle (guest): Wait now… we don’t ALL have interesting layoff stories. Some of us have been eating a lot of Raisin Bran and playing video games all day. Just sayin’.


toddindependent (guest): grayandpartners is available for…..


Moira (guest): ouch, Anonymouse.


Danielle (guest): lol at AnonyMouse


AdminErik: outside of the 10 that will be in the feature film, there will be a youtube channel featuring the dozens of other stories that aren’t in the bigger production.

jackie (guest): great idea


eric (guest): that’s cool


ronan_doyle (guest): AnonyMouse: a/s/l? lol, kidding


AnonyMouse (guest): OK. I know when I’ve gone too far. Outta here …


toddindependent (guest): much better than the mullen blog


Kat (guest): Where do you plan to show the feature film?


Karina (guest): yup, great way to use free sources out there


mrszalay (guest): will you direct it?


Moira (guest): Erik, there’s a lot of quiet discrimination out there. Is one of the stories going to feature that? I mean, against families, etc.


AdminErik: I will be sending one flip cam out via mail, with a list of people who have submitted stories. Once one person has filmed themselves, they will send it on to the next person on the list.

Kat (guest): Where do you plan to show the feature film?


MichaelF (guest): very cool


toddindependent (guest): or on the new iphone


mrszalay (guest): cool


toddindependent (guest): or on the new iphone


Moira (guest): sigh. what’s a girl to do with a pink blackberry?


Kat (guest): Moira, donate to charity.


AdminErik: This is all about people who have used unemployment as a launching pad for something great.

ronan_doyle (guest): Or toss it out the window.


ronan_doyle (guest): paperweight.


ronan_doyle (guest): doorstop


colin (guest): I really like the flipcam being sent


Moira (guest): Looking forward to seeing this film.


Ad-Recruiter (guest): positive message – I like that E.


AdminErik: Just bought it today…so it will be going out to the first person in the next few days.

jackie (guest): plus you are really cutting down on production costs!


Kat (guest): Erik, Erik, Erik. Whatcha gonna do with feature film when it’s done? Where’s it going to run?


darrellwhitelaw (guest): just walked back in, great idea with the flipcam


jackie (guest): oh yes of course


TheCurateur (guest): could be very cool to expose new / unsigned artists by temping their music to the clips and doing a chyron


Moira (guest): I like that, too. Full of trust. So many people I know are tossing in the towel at advertising because of the sleeze-factor. Please, bring some trust back in the industry.


TheCurateur (guest): could focus on local talent so ties into the overall premise


toddindependent (guest): name of said production company?


ronan_doyle (guest): There you go, mining for info.


AdminErik: They offered their services, but nothing signed yet. So I don’t want to announce that officially until they have.

Ad-Recruiter (guest): sally hogshead would be a good person to talk to Erik.


Dom (guest): Hey Erik this is Dominic re your flipcam


Dom (guest): Hank Leber said you wanted to get in touch


Dom (guest): Re our auction- http://bit.ly/TuMSs
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Dom (guest): How are ya?


Dom (guest): Cool


Dom (guest): This flipcam thing sound scool


Dom (guest): sounds cool


AdminErik: Dom here is doing an auction for the services of one of his directors.

colin (guest): As a recent grad entering this industry I look up to the things you are doing Erik and it’s organizations and agencies like this that are the reason I want to get into advertising. Good luck with everything and I look forward to seeing this all come together.


Dom (guest): When do you plan to launch with flipcam?


Jun 9 2009, 2:33 PM
Dom (guest): Think it’s great what you’re doing
AdminErik: It’s already happening.

Dom (guest): This and Hank’s work are what inspired our auction


AdminErik: Bigger production with Red camera, crew, lights, etc starting next week.

Dom (guest): Awesome!


toddindependent (guest): red camera! awesome!


Dom (guest): Haha indeed


Nik (guest): Erik, if you need any other help with editorial of the material you’re producing, would be happy to help connect you with edit houses in Chicago if you need another resource


Dom (guest): With the RED cam you can’t go wrong


Dom (guest): And yes indeed if you need any assistance please let us know


toddindependent (guest): came(red)


Dom (guest): Will be only too happy to help


AdminErik: Nik, I appreciate that. I have an editor who I’ve done lots of work with in the past who has offered to help.

toddindependent (guest): tor?


Nik (guest): cool


AdminErik: He’s one of the best there is. I just want to wait for his approval before I announce that as well.

Dom (guest): Can’t wait to see this Erik


ronan_doyle (guest): You can borrow our intern if you want. I think she needs stuff to do.


Moira (guest): This has been fun! Must go, baby’s crying. I’ll keep utd on the FB page. Let me know if you need design help but I suspect you hv plenty of that. See you next time.


toddindependent (guest): whats the mpaa rating on this?


toddindependent (guest): michael moore?


Moira (guest): And thanks everybody for your comments on my site.


Kat (guest): Ronan, can I borrow your intern?


toddindependent (guest): for what?


ronan_doyle (guest): Sure.


Dom (guest): U for unemployed indeed


at_kisokiso (guest): if you need illustrations, movie posters and such i’d love to help out – chrisgallevodesign.com


Dom (guest): haha


ronan_doyle (guest): Oh, yeah… shoulda asked for what first


ronan_doyle (guest): Todd’s the creative partner that “thinks” first.


Kat (guest): No, no. It’s a deal. I’ll pick her up. Have her back in a month.


mrszalay (guest): I would be happy to take a stab at title design, credits etc.


AdminErik: So, if anyone’s got any questions…fire away. Otherwise, how’s the search going for y’all?

toddindependent (guest): I’ll give it a Pat travers thumbs up review


Kat (guest): Just a little “office organization”. I think last intern is still in there somewhere.


Kat (guest): Ok, E, last try. What’s happening with feature film when done?


toddindependent (guest): search over at grayandpartners


toddindependent (guest): .com


Dom (guest): Erik nice chatting gotta jump off but if you need anything then please do hit us up


at_kisokiso (guest): yesterday i got an email from the president / CD of a marketing firm for an interview for their art director position


AndreSanders: I’m out here in Orlando, FL and I received my phone call today, for client services manager position, that I would not be hired. Have been out about 8 months, and only two interviews.

at_kisokiso (guest): totally hyped


AdminErik: It will be a “short”. I’ll have a dedicated site for it so people can just come and watch.

at_kisokiso (guest): made my week


at_kisokiso (guest): actually, made me month


eric (guest): pounding the pavement, trying to get in as many doors as possible. have had more traffic to my site from posting on pfta. thanks!


Nik (guest): erik, as you continue to expand PFTA, if you need any help from the production world, please don’t hesitate to reach out


Nik (guest): bye everyone


AdminErik: Andre…man, that sucks. I have the sense that things are picking up though.

AndreSanders: I’ve definitely have had traffic from PFTA as well, to my blog site, where my resume is hosted. But still nothing solid, as of yet

jackie (guest): i had a really good bite and invitation for freelance in sf


at_kisokiso (guest): thanks


Kat (guest): E, I may offer some free coaching to those who want some CPR for work search.


AdminErik: I’m hearing about lots of pitches…which is a sign that clients are looking to spend money again.

jackie (guest): asked to come out, asked when was the soonest i could be out


jackie (guest): then, the usual start/stop of advertising reared its head


AndreSanders: Erik: same here all of the people that I was initially laid off with has found work, but the art director was laid off again, so he’s still looking as well.

mrszalay (guest): search is slow but steady, still trying to fully understand Google analytics.


toddindependent (guest): grayandpartners got 4 rfp’s in the last month, so things are happening


Ad-Recruiter (guest): we are busy – which is a good sign re: hiring is happening.


jackie (guest): yeah i know!


jackie (guest): i was so excited haha


jackie (guest): totally


ronan_doyle (guest): One of the things that we’ll have to come to terms with, as the economy and advertising pick up, is that ALL the lost jobs won’t come back. I’d guess 20% are gone forever. It will be a slightly smaller industry.


toddindependent (guest): but better creative, hopefully


Kat (guest): Ronan: Some will choose other directions.


ronan_doyle (guest): Better creative. More innovative thinking. And many smaller agencies doing the work of the giants.


ronan_doyle (guest): AS it should be.


toddindependent (guest): giant animals, thanks to Erik


mrszalay (guest): What is the “other Direction” for the 20% who don’t go back?


AdminErik: It’s my hope that some of the people the industry wants back will want to do their own thing instead.

jackie (guest): sweet revenge


toddindependent (guest): like us at grayandpartners


jackie (guest): ha


Paul_K (guest): Jackie–SF, huh? I’m moving out there from Boston mid-summer. Nice to hear there’s some possibility out there.


toddindependent (guest): ok jackie, send us your stuff


Kat (guest): yes, independent. Freelance. Or something else you really love.


AdminErik: Agencies will have a harder time adapting to change than people like Todd and Ronan.

ronan_doyle (guest): Unfortunately, the ones who SHOULD leave won’t. They’re the ones who laid us off, make 400K a year, and haven’t had an original idea since Fresh Prince was on the air.


CSW (guest): But Fresh Prince was pretty innovative for its time


jackie (guest): todd- most certainly will! jackiemeyer.carbonmade.com


jackie (guest): tinkering with it still, of course


jackie (guest): whats unemployment for afterall


toddindependent (guest): got it jackie


Paul_K (guest): jackie–SF, huh? i’m moving out there from boston in two months. nice to know there are some bites out there. good for you.


jackie (guest): paulk- still thinking i might head out for good end of summer too


jackie (guest): that or new york


jackie (guest): try to make it work in either place if i havent found a job yet


Paul_K (guest): nice! sorry for double post. thing went screwy.


Paul_K (guest): yeah, no kidding


identityTBD (guest): I’d rather be unemployed in SF than employed almost anyhere else


Jun 9 2009, 2:46 PM
jackie (guest): haha
jackie (guest): good to know!


Paul_K (guest): yeah, plenty of noodle shops to while away the day in


jackie (guest): my boyfriend will be joining me, so he’ll be glad to know that piece of info


toddindependent (guest): jackie, you sent your stuff over already. Nice. Thanks, anial


ronan_doyle (guest): Why do people LOVE SF so much??


toddindependent (guest): animal


ronan_doyle (guest): The sun NEVER comes out in SF. My sibs live there.


CSW (guest): It’s the vibe Ronan.


Kat (guest): Okay, good stuff, Erik and Greg. Will catch you offline later.


identityTBD (guest): You can be yourself here–no matter who you are. Plus great weather, culture, food, etc


Paul_K (guest): yeah but why would you want to be strung out on heroin in a place where it’s sunny all the time, anyway?


jackie (guest): ive been on the east coast all my life- plus im 25 i still have time to make bad decisions


Paul_K (guest): (kidding)


Kat (guest): Last thing: Look at the good coming out of Erik’s layoff.


toddindependent (guest): jackie, like the green sense spot


jackie (guest): thanks! def one of the best things i was part of there


jackie (guest): forward thinking


jackie (guest): and helped pave the way for the carnival installation


jackie (guest): which got more publicity, but ah well


Kat (guest): Oh, then I’ll stay. ha ha


AdminErik: If you’ve got a web site or a LinkedIn page or a business you want to pitch, now’s the time.

MichaelF (guest): Okay, I’ll bite: michaelfinecreative.com


toddindependent (guest): jackie, and the mortgagereleif great design and photo


Kat (guest): Ok. Freelance copywriter/CD. http://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaibur
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at_kisokiso (guest): Chris Gallevo, Art Director / Designer / Illustrator – http://www.chrisgallevodesign.com


eric (guest): Jr AD livin in NYC. Live with the fam so I can zip up my bag and move. http://erictlee.weebly.com/
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ronan_doyle (guest): Oh, if you insist: grayandpartners.com We’d like some local clients. It’s SO annoying having Nike and Porshe and Apple calling everyday.


Fouhy (guest): Art Director http://www,hongkongfouhy.com
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AdminErik: Since I’ve been doing this PFTA thing full time, I haven’t worked for any actual money in a few months. Might need to do that soon. My advertising portfolio is at http://www.erikproulx.com
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dot (guest): RE: If you’ve got a web site to pitch, now’s the time.”


toddindependent (guest): we’ll be calling Erik


Fouhy (guest): http://www.hongkongfouhy.com
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dot (guest): http://web.mac.com/dotfromdot
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mrszalay (guest): johnszalay.com


identityTBD (guest): David Cohen — Copywriter, namer, editor www.creativehotlist.com/dcohen2 & www.linkedin.com/in/minimalcopy
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AndreSanders: AdminErik: you should put up a donate link on your site, so those that can contribute and help, can do so… unless you have it already and I didn’t see it.

Kat (guest): I’m also a transition/change coach. No website. Great results. Email me @ katjaib88@mac.com


ronan_doyle (guest): Ahhhhahaha. You deserve work just for having a site called hongkongfouhy


MichaelF (guest): any way to do a screen grab, transcript of this chat?


AdminErik: Again, i feel weird taking money from laid off people, especially when I haven’t even launched the service yet.

Ad-Recruiter (guest): well – I’d be happy to accept invites and have you all in my linkedIn network:


AndreSanders: http://www.linkedin.com/in/asand08 — forgot to include my linkedin page.
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Fouhy (guest): Thank you Ronan


AdminErik: Michael..I’ll be posting the transcripts in the next 15 minutes or so.

MichaelF (guest): Great, thanks Erik!


Kat (guest): Awesome. Thank you, Erik.


AndreSanders: well, if we’re laid off, maybe we won’t be able to donate, but you have others looking over your site that are not laid off, that may be able to do so , and those of us laid off now, will hopefully be employed later, so if it’s up, it may just come in at a later time.

toddindependent (guest): barter system, right Erk?


jackie (guest): Jackie Meyer- copywriter jackiemeyer.carbonmade.com


ronan_doyle (guest): Hong Kong… got any client contacts at Saucony??


toddindependent (guest): barter would be good to add


Kat (guest): This was good.


Ad-Recruiter (guest): http://www.linkedin.com/in/christiecordes
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ronan_doyle (guest): Hongkong… you must know my buddy Keith Manning.


toddindependent (guest): missed that one


Fouhy (guest): No, they are all gone with the move to Stride Rite


eric (guest): @toddindependent- u in boston? i love fung wah. Fast and gets you there on time! http://erictlee.weebly.com/
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Paul_K (guest): Gotta run. Good luck, everyone. Thanks, Erik! Great to hear so much is going on. Jackie, see you out in SF.


jackie (guest):


AdminErik: http://www.pleasefeedtheanimals.com/animal-trading/
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toddindependent (guest): i dont do fung wah, just acela, thank you


jackie (guest): me too must run


jackie (guest): everyone have a good week


eric (guest): haha, lucky star!


toddindependent (guest): am in boston


dot (guest): bolt is best


AndreSanders: This was great, thanks for doing this Erik!!! I’ve got you on my blogroll!

Kat (guest): One thing re: barter. Best to do half in cash. Half in services. Trust me on this.


jackie (guest): erik, youre doing such a great job


jackie (guest): really


toddindependent (guest): or beer


Ad-Recruiter (guest): I like the barter idea – creative.


ronan_doyle (guest): Or massages.


jackie (guest): so happy youre doing what youre doing!


ronan_doyle (guest): What!?


Fouhy (guest): Ronan, any work available at Gray & Partners?


ronan_doyle (guest): Fouhy… not yet, but soon.


Karina (guest): Good chat and really insightful


toddindependent (guest): Erik, we’ll connect offline/twitter


MichaelF (guest): Gotta run. Nice chatting with everyone. Erik, you’re awesome! Love all the news.


Karina (guest): i am going to log off but definitely keep me posted on any mass communications


Karina (guest): thanks and great work here!


Kat (guest): Adios! Muchos gracias.


Ad-Recruiter (guest): exciting news Erik: thanks for the invite today.


AdminErik: Hope I answered people’s questions if they had them. If I didn’t, ping me at erik@pleasefeedtheanimals.com

toddindependent (guest): cheers!


Fouhy (guest): Thanks Erik, big news, great news!


AdminErik: Always looking for/needing guest bloggers as well. If anyone here has something they want to say, say it on PFTA!

Jun 9 2009, 3:01 PM
AdminErik: That’s it everyone. Signing off for now. Thanks for joining the chat!

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